She's Got Questions; I've Got Answers

3 Questions, 3 Answers




Today I read over at the Aquila Report a reposting of a Blog by Persis Lorenti on "Civil Religion." She includes some quotes by George Marsden in Religion and American Culture in which Marsden describes the unique American intertwining of Christianity and country which produced American civil religion. She also includes a quote from her pastor which seems to reflect the 1950s more than the second half of the second decade of the twenty-first century: "Because I'm an American, I'm a Christian. And because I'm a Christian, I'm American." Ms. Lorenti believes that American civil religion (combining Christianity and patriotism resulting in regarding America as "God's chosen people") is on the rise. 

She goes on to ask three questions: 
So what do I do with dual citizenship in two very different kingdoms with goals that are poles apart? In which kingdom am I placing my hope and which takes priority? Do I approach people and issues as an American or a Christian first?
 Let's take them one by one:

1. So what do I do with dual citizenship in two very different kingdoms with goals that are poles apart?

  • You are a stranger and pilgrim in the world in general and America in particular (1 Peter 1:1, 2:11). You are a citizen of a heavenly colony, which is the church, that is ruled from heaven by our Savior-King Jesus the Christ for whose coming we wait (Philippians 3:20). When he comes he will bring into existence a new heavens and earth in which righteousness dwells (2 Peter 3:11). 
  • You are also a citizen of the United States. That government, like the Roman government of which Paul and Peter wrote, is providentially instituted by God and serves his purposes of keeping order in society. You as a Christian have certain responsibilities toward the government that exists - such as to submit to it, honor it, pay taxes to it, and pray for it. (Romans 13:1-6, 1 Peter 2:13-17, 1 Timothy 2:1-4)
  • What do we as Christians want from government? Not very much: that the authorities may govern in such a manner as to allow us as Christians to "lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way" (1 Timothy 2:2). What the church wants is from the government to to be left alone to be itself and to carry out its mission in the world. 
  • The goals of the church and civil government are "poles apart," not because they are in necessary conflict with one another, but because they have different purposes.  The church exists to worship God, to carry on the ministry of Word and Sacraments, to evangelize the world and disciple the church's converts and members, who are pilgrims and strangers making their way through this earthly wilderness, where there are many dangers, toils, and snares, to a heavenly country and a city not made with human hands. The civil government exists to carry out the functions of civil government which are distinct from the church. The is no divine blueprint for government. There is no need for the church to instruct the government. There is no need for the church to protest unless the government encroaches upon the church's unique responsibilities or limits the freedom of the church to be itself.
  • In the United States it is rare that the two citizenships come into conflict. When does the civil government interfere with our carrying out our duties as citizens of the kingdom of God (members of the church)? When does carrying out our duties as citizens of the kingdom of God put us in conflict with the civil government? There may be many things, as we are free to do, we do not agree with, do not like, or may heartily disapprove. But that is different from there being a conflict between our dual citizenships. Conflicts would exist if a Roman Catholic doctor were required to carry out an execution by lethal injection or a pro-life Protestant physician were were required to perform an abortion, of if the civil government told the ministers of the church they may not preach the Gospel of Christ, or interfered with the church setting its own standards of membership. If the civil government requires of Christians to do what the Bible clearly forbids or forbids Christians to do what the Bible clearly commands, then there is a conflict between the citizenship of a Christian in the kingdom of God and his citizenship in the United States. 
  • As Christians living in a free country, where citizens may speak freely and vote as they see fit, we have every right to our our opinions as citizens. What we do not have Biblical warrant to do is to claim that we are declaring our faith or stating God's position on matters before the body politic. As a citizen I may be for open borders or for closed borders, for a laissez faire health care system or a single payer government system, for or against increased spending on national defense, for or against Donald Trump as President. What I may not do is claim that I am representing the will of God. I do not find my views about such things in the divine revelation. They are matters of wisdom, intuition, prudence, or even prejudice. But they are not issues of transcendent good and evil where we are faced with the obeying or disobeying the revealed will of God. 
2. In which kingdom am I placing my hope and which takes priority?


  • A Christian's whole hope of eternal salvation, his/her primary loyalty, first priority, and ultimate hope is always and only in the kingdom of God. We are citizens of a heavenly kingdom that is ruled by Jesus as the Savior-Messiah-King. 
  • But that does not mean that we do not have this worldly hopes and priorities in United States. If I have a disease, my ultimate hope and priority is the kingdom of God, but I will also put trust in my physicians and make availing myself of their treatments a very high priority. The same is true of me as a Christian when I am concerned about the defense of my country against its enemies, or the protection of my neighborhood against criminals, or the building and maintenance of roads and bridges, or the delivery of the mail, or the prevention of the spread of communicable diseases, or the assurance of a safe food supply, to name a few government functions. I will put my hope in the government for fulfilling those functions. I will make a priority of supporting the government in the fulfillment of those functions.
  • Again, it is seldom, if ever, that our hopes and priorities with regard to the heavenly and earthly kingdoms are in necessary conflict. That is because of the differences between the natures and responsibilities of the two kingdoms.
3. Do I approach people and issues as an American or a Christian first?
  • It depends. If you are looking at people in terms of their eternal salvation, then you approach them first, really only, as a Christian who knows that there is salvation only in the kingdom of God. But what if you are looking at them as persons who want to enter the country illegally, or as persons who want to commit crimes, or as persons who need health care or an education? Then you look at people first and really only from the perspective of being an American. What do you as an American citizen want for these people? Work for it. But don't turn it into an issue of the kingdom of God.
  • It is similar with issues. Is it an issue having to do with the doctrine, worship, practice, and government of the church? Then approach it as a citizen of the heavenly colony on earth. Is it an issue having to do with society or government? It very likely there is no divine mandate. So you approach the issue as a citizen of your country. Do you want the country to go back in the gold standard? Work for it. Do you want it not to engage in wars abroad? Work for it. Just don't try to tell other Christians they must think and act as you do because it is an issue of the Gospel or the kingdom of God. 















CIVIL RELIGION

There's always been a level of syncretism in this nation where Christianity and patriotism become so intertwined that America begins to don the mantle as God's chosen people. Maybe it's just me, but it seems to be on the rise again. Thus I found this quote from George Marsden very interesting:1
America's religious heritage also contributed to a sort of deification of the national enterprise. In recent years, this tendency, first seen during the American Revolution, has been tagged "civil religion." Civil religion is the attributing of sacred character to the nation itself. Throughout history rulers had claimed divine sanction either by saying they themselves were divine (as Roman emperors did) or that they were chosen by the God or gods of the nation...
But now America had a problem. How could they claim religious sanction for their nation? Thomas Paine, for instance, was a notorious infidel. After the Revolution he authored scathing attacks on Christianity. With leading citizens such as Paine or Jefferson, clearly the nation could not officially claim a Christian sanction.
Americans resolved this problem by three primary means, all aspects of civil religion. First, Deist leaders of the Jefferson sort argued that the natural laws on which American rights were founded demonstrably originated with the Creator... Hence, official references to "God" in American life, as "in God we trust," or "so help me God" could have this vague meaning.
Second, Americans civil and political leaders informally continued to speak of the nation as though it were a Christian nation, or at least a biblical nation. Both politicians and clergy continually referred to America as the new elect, and Americans as the chosen people, a covenanted people...
Finally, the United States was the first modern nation systematically to shift public veneration of the government from veneration of persons to veneration of the nation and its principles.

The following was an aside in one of Pastor Ryan's recent sermons. He was making a point of how Christianity has been watered down to praying a prayer or wearing a cultural marker, which is NOT THE GOSPEL. His statement also captured, in my opinion, the essence of civil religion:
Because I'm an American, I'm a Christian. And because I'm a Christian, I'm American.

So what do I do with dual citizenship in two very different kingdoms with goals that are poles apart? In which kingdom am I placing my hope and which takes priority? Do I approach people and issues as an American or a Christian first?

Again these questions aren't aimed at anyone. I am just using the Socratic method to encourage my own critical thinking.

1. Religion and American Culture, George M. Marsden, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc, 1990, pp. 42-44.

Divorce Is Not the Cure for Marriage to a Mean Husband


The Misguided Mission of Barbara Roberts





Barbara Roberts, along with her partner at Cry for Justice, Jeff Crippen, is on a mission. A self-described survivor of domestic abuse, she wants to "awaken the evangelical church to the presence of domestic violence and abuse in its midst." No argument. The evangelical church needs to be watchful for signs of marital conflicts and especially cases of domestic abuse. 

However, there is more to Barbara's mission. Barbara has written a book on divorce, Not Under Bondage, which according to her book blurb does the following:

  • defines domestic abuse as a pattern of coercive control (not just physical violence) 
  • explains the scriptural dilemmas of abuse victims
  • carefully examines the scriptures and scholarly research
  • shows how the Bible sets victims of abuse free from bondage and guilt.
The way that God sets victims of abuse free is through divorce. According to the blurb:

  • The Bible distinguishes between "treacherous divorce" and "disciplinary divorce".
  • Disciplinary divorce is permitted by the Bible. This applies in cases of abuse, adultery or desertion, where a seriously mistreated spouse divorces a seriously offending spouse.
  • Treacherous divorce is condemned by the Bible. It occurs when a spouse obtains divorce for reasons other than abuse, adultery or desertion.
  • If the offending partner was sexually immoral, the Bible allows the non-offending partner to remarry.
  • If the offending partner abused, deserted or unjustly dismissed the other, and the offender has been judged to be ‘as an unbeliever’, the Bible allows the mistreated partner to remarry.
I think this is a fair summary of an argument she would make:
  • Domestic abuse includes a person's being mean and insulting resulting in the other partner's feeling persecuted. 
  • A wife (or, in rare cases, a husband) who is married to such a person has grounds for a "disciplinary divorce."
  • Therefore, the cure for being married to a person who persecutes you is divorce.
Now, before I go any further, let me make clear that I do not believe any husband (or wife) should be mean. When I think of mean people, I am reminded of the saying that the only reason some people are alive is because it is illegal to kill them (and sometimes wonder if that is the reason I am yet alive). 

If meanness leads to physical violence, that physical violence creates a necessary separation, which, if it cannot be remedied so as to make the non-violent party safe, is grounds for divorce. The violent person in effect deserts by making it necessary for the other person to leave in order to protect her (or his) physical well being. 

Moreover, I think that people and life, in this world that is very far short of the new heavens and earth for which we look, are complicated. That includes the reality and tragedy of divorce. Life has its ways of knocking you up side the head and showing you that it is not nearly so simple as you once, without justification, thought. There is a great deal of unhappiness and misery in marriages, including Christian ones. Some people would be much better off if they had had the wisdom to see - or if someone had convinced them of what they could not see - that such was the incompatibility of the two persons that happiness was most unlikely. Sometimes, despite the fact that it is not Biblically approved, such persons divorce. Sooner or later they remarry. I do not believe such divorces mean that God does or the church should write such people off. Just as God is far more holy than liberal churches imagine, God is often more merciful than conservative churches think. God's conservative people might take a lesson from him. 

But, on to Barbara Roberts....

Since Barbara had responded to my views earlier by finding me so invincibly ignorant that she would waste no further effort trying to educate me, I had not thought about her or her take on divorce until this past weekend. The Epistle lesson for Sunday, May 7, was 1 St. Peter 2:11-17, and I chose it as the text for my sermon. This required me to do a little review of St. Peter's letter so I could place my text in the book's context. 

My review reminded me that St. Peter was writing in the early 60s to believers in churches in the area of modern day Turkey in a time when there was sporadic and local persecution of varying degrees of severity throughout the Empire. His readers either were being persecuted or were facing the threat of persecution. This is the historical context of and the primary reason for the letter.

  • Peter reminds his readers’ “for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials” (1:6).

  • He encourages them that if they “must suffer for righteousness’ sake” they “will be blessed” (3:14).

  • He knows some will be brought before courts, so instructs them to be “always prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you” (3:15).

  • He tells them…
    • not to “be surprised at the fiery trial that come comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you” (4:12),
    • that “if you are insulted for the name of Christ you are blessed” (4:14),
    • and that “if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed” (4:16).

  • He lets them know “that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brethren throughout the world” (5:9).

Peter's counsel to persecuted Christians is to respond to criticism and mistreatment with good works, especially the good work of submission. He introduces this theme of submission in chapter 2, verses 13-17, where his main concern is the submission of Christian citizens to the Roman (Nero the Emperor) government:
Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.
He seems to return to the relation of Christian citizens to society and government in chapter 3, verses 8-17: 
Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind. Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing. For
“Whoever desires to love life and see good days,let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit; let him turn away from evil and do good; let him seek peace and pursue it. For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and his ears are open to their prayer.But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.” 
Now who is there to harm you if you are zealous for what is good? But even if you should suffer for righteousness' sake, you will be blessed. Have no fear of them, nor be troubled, but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. For it is better to suffer for doing good, if that should be God's will, than for doing evil. 
In the process of counseling persecuted Christians Peter, besides addressing Christians as members of society and citizens of the state, addresses two persecuted groups of people. In 1 Peter 2:18-25 he counsels servants who are persecuted by their masters:
Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust. For this is a gracious thing, when, mindful of God, one endures sorrows while suffering unjustly. For what credit is it if, when you sin and are beaten for it, you endure? But if when you do good and suffer for it you endure, this is a gracious thing in the sight of God. For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps. He committed no sin, neither was deceit found in his mouth. When he was reviled, he did not revile in return; when he suffered, he did not threaten, but continued entrusting himself to him who judges justly. He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed. For you were straying like sheep, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
1 Peter 3:1-7, he addresses wives and husbands with particular concern for who experience mistreatment from their husbands: 
Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct. Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear—  but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are her children, if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening. Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.
Peter's message to Christians is: It's not unusual if you face mistreatment and persecution as Christians. Is it as a member of society? Don't make war on society. Do the good works of a member of society. Is it as a citizen of the Empire? Don't join a revolution. Do the good works of a citizen. Is is as a servant in relation to your master? Don't run away from your master. Do the good works of a servant. Is it as the wife of a husband? Don't divorce your husband. Do the good works of a wife.

Dr. Edmund Clowney wrote (in his exposition of 1 Peter in The Bible Speaks Today Series): "In the case of wives also there is the possibility of mistreatment. Christian wives are to remain faithful to God under pressure; they are not to deny the Lord for fear of their unbelieving husbands (3:6). But the submission wives are to yield to their husbands represents more than an opportunity to bear injustice for the sake of Christ. Peter presents this submission as an adornment of the Christian woman, the beauty of a meek and quiet spirit that is pleasing to God."

Imagine that - we as Christians are called upon to bear mistreatment and endure persecution in this world. Sometimes it occurs in marriage.

The problem with the mission of Barbara Roberts is that it plainly misguided and decidedly unbiblical. There are women (and men) who deserve our sympathy and need our support who will instead be lead astray.







It's Time for the Mississippi State Flag to Go

A Response to Keith Plunkett

Mississippi State Flag
Keith Plunkett


Keith Plunkett is a Mississippi conservative political operative who runs the Mississippi PEP website. He has served as a relentless promoter of State Senator Chris McDaniel, who almost defeated long time Republican U.S. Senator Thad Cochran in 2014 and is mulling a challenge to U.S. Senator Roger Wicker in 2018. The purpose of Mississippi PEP is "to always and everyday provide Traditional and Cultural Conservatives across the state with resources. When studied and applied these resources provide the wisdom to more fully understand, the ability to articulate, and the opportunity to share conservative beliefs with others."

Today he published The Trouble With Not Knowing, Or Caring, About History in response to an announcement by Rep. Sonya Williams-Barnes of the Mississippi Legislative Black Caucus that its members will not attend the Southern Legislative Conference in Biloxi as a protest against the Mississippi State Flag. Keith believes that the problem the Black Caucus has can be remedied by a history lesson which he provides. He concludes:

So, there you have it. A state lawmaker making political headlines for Mississippi and leading a legislative caucus can’t even be bothered to know some very basic history about the state where she is responsible for creating laws. And it’s the flag that is supposedly an embarrassment to the state? 
The world is full of people who pine-on about charting futures, and the importance of moving on, not living in the past, super new government programs, and the like. But history is the only certainty from which we learn. The future is a much easier place to be for those who haven’t studied the lessons of the past, and therefore aren’t prepared to make an impact on the present. 
Rep. Williams-Barnes appears to need a remedial course.
I responded by posting what follows at the comments section:


That's an interesting history lesson, Keith. I join you in being a proud southerner, whose forefathers fought and died in the War, whose heroes are men such as Robert. E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson, who resists the efforts to discredit these good men, and who rejects the call to pretend that the War never happened (as in my hometown, "The City of Five Flags" and the opposition to continuing to acknowledge the City was under the Confederate government). After the War one effort to re-incorporate South into the United States was to allow the South to have a certain pride in her heritage and to include men such as Lee in the pantheon American heroes. The War happened and the country was eventually reunited. One of the ways this was promoted was by allowing Southerners not to feel themselves a vanquished people living in a subjugated section of the Country.

All that said, there remains a problem with the Mississippi Flag. The truth is that there were slaves who were held and forced to work against their wills. And, the truth is that, after they were freed, and when Southerners regained control of their state governments, these former slaves were often humiliated and denied their rights as American citizens and forced to form and live in segregated communities, including schools, which in the case of other immigrants were an instrument of assimilation.

Almost 40% of the citizens of Mississippi are African Americans, most of them descendents slaves. They almost universally are offended by the inclusion of the Battle Flag in the Mississippi State Flag. They feel no pride or loyalty when they see Mississippi Flag. The Flag is not something the promotes the unity of Mississippi. It is not that Blacks (and not a few Whites) just "don't understand." They may lack the knowledge of what you and others have written about this history of MS and its Flag. But that is not the problem. The problem is that, when they look at the Flag they see a symbol of slavery, of a war fought to preserve their ancestors' status as slaves, and later of segregation. The reaction is visceral. It cannot be cured by history lessons or by your assurance that we really are not racists. These Black Mississippians are not going to come to a point of "enlightenment" that will result in their seeing that there is "no real problem" with the Flag.

For this reason there are many White Mississippians, some of whom share the visceral reaction Blacks have against the Flag, who also have a problem with the Flag. Other White Mississippians are proud of their heritage and their ancestors, but they are convinced the Flag is not functioning and cannot ever function as the symbol of the state, incorporating all her citizens. The reality is that the Flag is both a symbol of and cause of disunity. If it were a practice to place one's hand over his heart and recite a pledge of state allegiance to Flag and State for which it stands, there are a great number of Mississippians, Black and White, who could not do so. If it were a practice to play a State anthem and to stand as the State Flag is raised, there are a great many Blacks and Whites who could not and would not stand. In other words, the Mississippi Flag no longer functions nor can it function as Flags are supposed to function - to represent the State of Mississippi and her people, to inspire pride and loyalty.

It is past time to adopt a new Flag, a Flag for all of the State and all of her citizens.